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Sunday, Apr 27, 2008
ALM33: Suicidal Thoughts
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A little honest and open talk from your gallant host. I'm not telling you how to do it, more like telling you why you shouldn't. YOU may not be there, but some people are and if they come across this, I'll feel like I may have made a positive difference with this.
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This podcast is supposed to help people?
You posted a link to this podcast in a suicide forum, are you crazy?
You can't post a link to a detailed description of how someone killed themselves to someone who is suicidal. They will hear this and it may trigger their impulses, give them ideas, make them WORSE.. I know. I've been a member of TakeThisLife for over a year and a half. Please don't do that again.. If you've posted anywhere other than TTL, please, please go remove those links. They will not help anyone that is suicidal, I promise you.
First of all, for someone who is severely suicidal, + not just idly thinking of it, suicide seems like a good idea because they simply can't tolerate the pain anymore... It isn't about what they have been through - although some people here in the states have been through the things you mentioned... rape, terrible abuse and more... but regardless, it is not about what has happened to the person, it is about feeling pain, and feeling alone, and not having the coping skills or support or knowing how to deal with that pain. When that happens, death starts to looks like a comfort, because it is an end to the great pain that one is in.. And when it becomes absolutely unbearable, and there is no other outlet or help... that is sometimes what the person ends up doing. Because they don't have, or don't see the support that they need to overcome the pain.
Now if you tell the person to just "suck it up," which you did, you are minimizing their feelings and making them feel worse about themself - this doesn't help one bit. In fact, it makes it worse - makes them feel: "yes, I *should* be able to handle this - something is wrong with me.. I'm a loser, I don't deserve to live.." etc...
You are right about the last part though - we don't know what will happen - tommorrow or after death - and that is one reason to stick around. One reason that some people choose to. Unfortunately, sometimes that's not enough.
If you really want to help, the best thing you can do for people who are down or depressed or suicidal is to listen and ask questions. And to assure them that they are not making things/feelings up... and to affirm their feelings as being real + meaningful... regardless of how bad *you* think the problem is.
So you know.
I appreciate your willingness to help, and welcome you to try to help more, but if you mean to do so, please read up on it so you know what you're talking about... here are a few links to start with.
http://www.afsp.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.viewPage&page_id=74295647-AAD5-B47F-340249697DAC238A
http://www.save.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.viewPage&page_id=FDF9AFE8-E081-2F43-D4AE62DE644D1B1F
A book written by a recovered person about what it is truly like, or actually reading peroples posts - pain might help one understand as well.
Thanks very much for your attempt, though. Shows you care.